So Many Questions - I Need Your Answers
Dec. 1st, 2010 11:23 amSo I had this idea - to write a fic that examines a question - and I went poking around online for some questions. Below are the four that I found most interesting or thought provoking. I'm going to write about one of them, I'm just not sure which one yet.
* Would you rather have a great friend you could share everything with or a great lover you can’t really talk to?
* Would you ever start a relationship with someone who was still living with an ex for financial reasons?
* Do you consider yourself sexually open minded?
* Have you ever had a true one-night stand?
Why even bring it up, if I don't know where I'm going with it? Because I'm curious to see what you guys think. Which question appeals to you? Which, if any, of them do you have a strong reaction or opinion about? Talk to me, help me choose. Or just scrap them all in favor of something you'd rather see. :)
(Oh, and PS, this one will contain supporting characters and side pairings so who, besides the Js, do you wanna see hooked up?)
* Would you rather have a great friend you could share everything with or a great lover you can’t really talk to?
* Would you ever start a relationship with someone who was still living with an ex for financial reasons?
* Do you consider yourself sexually open minded?
* Have you ever had a true one-night stand?
Why even bring it up, if I don't know where I'm going with it? Because I'm curious to see what you guys think. Which question appeals to you? Which, if any, of them do you have a strong reaction or opinion about? Talk to me, help me choose. Or just scrap them all in favor of something you'd rather see. :)
(Oh, and PS, this one will contain supporting characters and side pairings so who, besides the Js, do you wanna see hooked up?)
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Date: 2010-12-01 04:29 pm (UTC)Side pairing hmmm... I don't care, but I'm in the mood for some Chad love! (I'm sure I'm not the only one!)
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Date: 2010-12-01 05:26 pm (UTC)OH, here's an interesting question: Just because you like to read/watch porny things, does it also mean that you'd like to try them? Most people will say no, but I wonder if there's not a certain level of curiosity, even if your desire and your brain tell you two totally different things. Hm ... *ponders*
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Date: 2010-12-01 05:08 pm (UTC)and yet, secretly I want J2 to break up, keep living together, and get back together again. XP Just to prove that it can't work.)Can't wait to see what you're going to do with this fic - and very curious which of the questions you're going to play with! :D
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Date: 2010-12-01 05:12 pm (UTC)I'd like to see Mike/Chris or Tom/Chris. Although Tom/Chris would probably look weird in my head.
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Date: 2010-12-01 05:28 pm (UTC)I think you're right - the one night stand thing is interesting to me, especially in fic since it always starts there and turns into more. Hm...
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Date: 2010-12-01 05:24 pm (UTC)So, as far as thoughts/reactions/whatever go, I'd be kind of interested to see someone try to have a one night stand and try to deal with the 'oh shit, this was amazing but I'm not supposed to ever see this guy again, wtf?'. And the great friend/lover is on my mind a lot lately. If you have a friend who is almost everything you could want, except that they're not a lover, is it worth it to just get really friendly with you right hand to have almost everything? Or should you just have a significant other that scratches that itch? Because it is really important. From someone who is snuggle deprived 85% of the time, physical attraction and interaction is really, really important. So, yeah. I'd like to see more on that.
And sexually open minded... That's kind of interesting. I found this incredible article about girls and how they're supposed to be sexy but not sexual, I wish I could go into more detail but I really just remember basic points. It talks about how girls are supposed to want to be desirable, but not ever really act on it. They're not 'supposed' to want sex, or know how to take care of themselves sexually, but they're supposed to be available for men to fantasize about. It went into detail about how women fake orgasms because they don't know what they like, so they'll just do whatever. (this is all relevant, I swear.) I think it would be interesting to get into someone's head who tries all the kinky stuff because it's what their partner wants, but isn't actually turned on by it. It's a hard balance between wanting to give someone what they want, and wanting to be taken care of yourself.
I don't know if any of that made any sense, but let's pretend like it did, yeah? :P
CHAD/SOPHIA. DUH. I don't know why I'm so obsessed with them lately, BUT I AM. I also have a sick obsession with Sandy/Chris. IT'S NOT MY FAULT.
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Date: 2010-12-01 05:34 pm (UTC)You're right about the first topic, I think. It's funny, I just read this book that I think you should totally read because while I was reading it, I kept thinking 'Cass would love this.' It's called Will Grayson Will Grayson by John Green (who wrote my favorite YA book of all time, An Abundance of Katherines) and Dave Levithan. In it, one of the lead characters makes a pointedly awesome revelation about the love he feels for his best friend about how we always equate love with sex but sometimes you just love someone because you love who they are. It's okay to do that and love someone else, who you also have sex with. I don't know - it's fascinating to me and I really liked that point in the book. It might work it's way in here, too. Hm...
And I think you totally gave me another point for the story, as well, with the sexually open-mindedness. Seriously, all of this conversation is making me want to do, as
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Date: 2010-12-01 06:18 pm (UTC)First situation is strictly financial. They tried to sell the house, couldn't, and neither can afford it on their own. It's actually working out okay but I think it's only because they have a kid and that kinda buffers any awkwardness. Although neither have started dating again so maybe the awkwardness is on the horizon.
Second situation is a little more interesting. This is a situation I would avoid like the plague if I was an outsider. The two people were roommates and longtime friends, they dated for about a year and then broke up but remained friends and still lived together. If I was interested in either one of them I'd have to back off because I just don't know that I could trust that their friendship would only stay a friendship.
The third situation is the weirdest though. Okay, here's how it works. Gay guy and straight girl are best friends. They go to a party, get drunk and end up having sex. (My gay friends swear that most gay guys at least attempt to sleep with a woman at some point in their lives) Anyway, nine months later a bundle of joy arrives. They remain very good friends and live together so they can raise their child together. The girl is now married and the guy is dating a longterm boyfriend who also lives with them. It's a very strange situation.
Anyway, don't know if that helps you at all. I just thought it would be interesting to share.
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Date: 2010-12-01 06:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-12-01 06:24 pm (UTC)1) why would I have to choose between my best friend and my lover? They like each other just fine! (but not too fine, which answers question 3). Oddly, after 22 years together if I had to give up sex with my husband or give up talking to him, I would keep sex!!
2) theoretically yes (I'm naive and optimistic a combination which leads to believing what people tell me, yes, that's right, they call me Captain Gullible!) But I would probably not end up handling it well because I'm possessive and jealous and seeing someone be intimate, especially with someone they used to be sexually intimate with, would upset me.
3) Way more than I used to be. But happy to stay monogamous.
4) Nope.
The Js and a girl? (well you asked if I was open minded? hmm, does this qualify as open minded or dirty minded?)
Hugs,
H.
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Date: 2010-12-01 06:28 pm (UTC)For most people, I think the ideal is having both in one - best friend and lover - but if you haven't found that and had to choose ... I don't know. I think it'd be impossible to maintain a relationship with those dynamics between three separate people but I'm not sure that you can really be happy with only one of the dynamics presented. It's definitely something worth thinking about and examining further.
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Date: 2010-12-01 06:35 pm (UTC)truth be told, I don't see how you couldn't do 2-4 in combo.
I mean, 1 honestly doesn't stand out much to me (probably becuase I wouldn't consider someone a great lover who wasn't a great friend first, but that's probably just me), but 2-4 all seem very interesting.
The reason I'd think to do it in combo is because I can see how 3 & 4 relate (what counts as a true one-night stand- can you even have one?) and how 2 & 4 relate (for example, how awkward is it if the ex thought they were person 3's one-stand?), and thus how 2 & 3 relate (how open minded do you have to be to start a relationship in that scenario). Which would result in awesomeness.
As for side pairings, honestly? I kinda want something crazy like, say, Tom/Chad. although honestly you could cycle so many pairings around Chad that's it not even funny (oh god, that be a great side plot for comparison- J2 vs the Chadverse!)
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Date: 2010-12-01 06:41 pm (UTC)I realize, the more I think about this, that I can't do any of them without tangling them up in the others. Okay, so I could but now I don't think I want to. I think I just want to create this tangled web of all these characters and see how they all relate to each other when they're stuffed into these awkward situations.
God, this fic is going to be 100K if I don't watch myself.
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Date: 2010-12-01 06:45 pm (UTC)But okay. Let's do this, brain.
1. I'd rather have a great friend. The truth is, it's all about the connection and sure, you can have a connection based on sex and limited to that, but in the end, it's just a satisfaction in one part of your life, right?
On the other hand, some people may prefer a great lover, because their other needs are fulfilled somewhere else (by someone else) or because they are amotionally shut-down and just don't want to share anything outside of sex and (maybe) everyday stuff that don't require any connection whatsover.
2. I think I'd not feel secure enough to do that. There would probably be too much self-doubt and "I want to trust you, but I'm worried, because she's your ex/prettier/better/available".
3. I would say yes in some ways and not so much in others. Fandom definitely opened my eyes to some stuff, but there are things I'd never do.
4. No. And I'm not sure that would work for me. I'm not saying "definitely not", but I'm not looking for it or planning to do it.
And I like the first two questions the most. Fourth could be interesting, too.
Btw, I'd really like to read about your writing process one day. Or more like, planning/figuring things-to-write out process, because I wonder where "to write a fic that examines a question" came from. Is this the idea to challenge yourself or to write something specific?
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Date: 2010-12-01 09:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-12-01 08:59 pm (UTC)* Never in a million years never ever no effing way!
* To a point. Open minded totally. Just not really ...uh adventurous?
* Yes. Served the purpose but not really an ideal.
1 and 2 are the most appealing fiction wise
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Date: 2010-12-01 09:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-12-01 10:23 pm (UTC)Like a lot of people on here I thought I was kinda vanilla (but with sprinkles and sauce.) I've got kinks and I've explored some of them too, even done the true one-night stand thing too but it was really not my thing. I guess I have discovered more kinks via the SPN-fandom, though most are the read only type and not re-enact.
I think the first question is the one that gets me most because I'd find it so difficult not to have a rapport or connection beyond the physical with someone.
As for the side pairing? I'm getting swayed by the Chad love I'm seeing above in a few other comments.
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Date: 2010-12-02 12:32 am (UTC)yes
YES
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Date: 2010-12-02 03:27 am (UTC)I'm not too invested in side pairings, but I'm a fan of the guys having friends who are more than just drinking buddies...
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Date: 2010-12-02 05:43 am (UTC)2. I would definitely start a relationship with a person who is still living with their ex because of finances. I think a better question would be if I could have a trusting and meaningful relationship with somebody who still lived with their ex. Two different things. And the answer to the second question really boils down to what type of relationship the former lovers have together. If its something that is broken both physically and emotionally, then I can get beyond it. If they’re still tied to each other emotionally, I don’t know that I could be comfortable with my new partner if they’re still hung up on their former relationship.
3. I really do.
4. Nope.
I know I mentioned this earlier, but I’d love to see some Jeffrey Dean Morgan in your fics. Also, I’d LOVE a bromance between Chad and Mike. That would be an even combo of epic win and and epic clusterfuck
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Date: 2010-12-03 05:58 am (UTC)I could never do it because sometimes I find myself too lazy to want to work at a relationship. That scenario would cause me to have to work at not becoming suspicious of the ex. I am a bit insecure of myself in the romance department. Another red flag number 2 sends to me is....I don't know if I would want to date someone who can't be financialy independent. Does that make me a snob? I would wonder if they just don't make the money or they have a hard time with budgets etc. Stress is what that spells to me. I don't expect someone to be wealthy, but um yeah. Now see to me this option for a fic would lead to much angstin not a good way, and not sure if I would like that. See I am approaching this from someone of my age and if peeps my age haven't gotton it together financially well...
secondary couple....Chad and Mike or Sandy and Tom.
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Date: 2010-12-04 11:41 pm (UTC)My friend's currently in the second situation for very specific reasons (due to the wife's extremely ill health, even tho the couple are separated). It's weird because as the friend of the "other woman" I care about her wellbeing and am suspicious of the guy. But it does seem straight up (but odd). Anyhow the friend is cautiously happy so don't want to rain on her parade. On the other hand we as her friends worry that she is already compromising and they've only been together a year (throw in a couple of kids and still very present in laws too). Short answer: I wouldn't do it, but I'm not in that situation.
My open-mindedness has been exponentially expanded since lj and fic got their grip of me (but basically vanilla here):D
The great friend/great lover question - depends on what you need in your life at that time. At one point I had both - and they were friends too. Very stressful but fun.
No. The one that was meant to be turned into marriage!